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Post by Interesting on Jun 29, 2018 17:49:38 GMT -5
Well shows the point that it's not the anonymous poster's fault their posts are being read. If you're too weak to not read or simply ignore them, you're the problem. Stop reading my posts, you said you don't want to see guest posters anymore, so don't read them.
Especially don't quote them. I am a useless guest poster after all. Quoting simply emphasizes the text again since you're repeating it. These are merely practice posts for those who are too weak to ignore guest posts and instead get so inflamed about them.
WEAK. Now take this as an exercise and STOP REPLYING TO POSTS YOU DON'T WANT TO READ.
... or is it that you find value in these posts that you want to keep supporting guest posting? Sure looks like it. Great, another reason to keep guest posting enabled!
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Post by goldie on Jun 30, 2018 13:31:36 GMT -5
See what's happened here? It's turned into a junior version of the discourse in a political forum. Often the meanest, most personal and least relevant attacks are made by those posting as "guest".
I suspect that some of the different named "guests" are really the same person. If they have to register, would they be allowed to register more than once with different names?
I think that posting under the added anonymity of "guest" (after all, we're all anonymous if we don't use our real names) makes some people feel more free to spew hate.
I've long wondered, and does anybody know, if some trolls are paid? Then responding to them only increases their income from spewing hate. And if they register under different names do they get paid more, ie for each name? Just wondering...
I agree that registration should be required in the political forums. It probably won't stop the problem but hopefully would diminish it. Some people are more interested in venting their anger than having a thoughtful discussion. {SAD!}
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Post by goldie on Jun 30, 2018 13:41:12 GMT -5
Note to "Guest" posters: registering will save you the bother of Captcha every time you post.
Oh, wait, maybe that will encourage them to post more. Oh no, what have I done?
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Post by Interesting on Jun 30, 2018 19:18:47 GMT -5
No, registering will not increase post rate because it takes me less than 10 seconds to solve captcha. Registered posters still has that 10 seconds to deal with, as I said above.
I don't see your point of this as irrelevant. Not only the fact that registered posters can be (and are) equally as vicious as guests, we have to post as anonymous to prove our point that we can produce equally as valuable postings as registered posters. Because of the mere fact we are fighting against what you want (i.e. forced registration) you claim this as "trolling" ... so what are we supposed to do? sit here and die by not replying? That's ridiculous.
Also the whole point of 'guest' is anonymity, not post rate - at least for any specific poster. You have to also consider if you see guest posts that are less than 10 seconds apart, it's very likely that these are distinct users as each poster has their own 10 second counter to deal with - so this is proof without knowing ipaddresses that there is more than one guest here.
And of course some trolls are paid. No question about it. However people who want freedom of anonymity don't need to get paid to post just like you wanting to post to stifle anonymity.
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Post by goldie on Jul 1, 2018 14:03:24 GMT -5
How can I get paid for posting? Who pays, Republican Party or Right Wing dark money, or ??
So you waste 10 seconds a post. If you post six times a day that's a half hour + a month or six hours a year you've wasted. Oh well, it's your time.
All the fallacies in your post aren't worth my time addressing. Except to say that your rationale is part of the definition of a troll. Oh, and if I wanted to "stifle anonymity" I'd be asking for your real names.
A troll by any other name smells as . . . . er, is still a troll.
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Post by Interesting on Jul 1, 2018 18:36:59 GMT -5
The Democratic party or Soros or Bilderberg or something like that can equally pay for posting.
Your argument of 10 seconds per post is again meaningless, why you keep bringing it up makes no sense. It's a dead horse, stop beating it.
There are absolutely no fallacies in my argument. If you are not willing to point them out, they do not exist. Because I bring valid points, I am not a troll - you are for simply saying some straw man is there scaring you and want some government help to protect yourselves from that piece of straw.
Weak.
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Post by weaslespit on Jul 2, 2018 7:22:58 GMT -5
See what's happened here? It's turned into a junior version of the discourse in a political forum. Often the meanest, most personal and least relevant attacks are made by those posting as "guest".
I suspect that some of the different named "guests" are really the same person. If they have to register, would they be allowed to register more than once with different names?
I think that posting under the added anonymity of "guest" (after all, we're all anonymous if we don't use our real names) makes some people feel more free to spew hate.
I agree that registration should be required in the political forums. It probably won't stop the problem but hopefully would diminish it. Some people are more interested in venting their anger than having a thoughtful discussion. {SAD!}
100% agreed. Sadly, I fear it may already be too late.
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Post by goldie on Jul 2, 2018 11:01:03 GMT -5
Scared? ROTFLMAO! Of what or who? People who are too afraid to register and have a consistent "identity"? As for those you think could pay, they don't. That's a Right Wing thing. The left put their money into real causes and identified ads, and depend on people who are sincere and really believe what they say to volunteer. The I never heard of someone named "Bilderberg". If you're talking about that ridiculous Right Wing/wingnut Alex Jones conspiracy thing, I don't know why a European group would want to do anything like that here in USA. tsk tsk
We can't see the sun at night; so it must not exist then, eh? LOL
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Post by Interesting on Jul 2, 2018 11:08:59 GMT -5
Wow, it is all a conspiracy. Just because someone would want to remain as anonymous, people instantly make assumptions that the poster is a right wing nut.
Either way, you are scared of anonymous posting, that's the end of it. Because you're scared of it, you want it banned.
If you're not scared of it, then leave things the way they are: there is nothing to be afraid of.
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Post by weaslespit on Jul 2, 2018 13:47:00 GMT -5
Wow, it is all a conspiracy. Just because someone would want to remain as anonymous, people instantly make assumptions that the poster is a right wing nut. Either way, you are scared of anonymous posting, that's the end of it. Because you're scared of it, you want it banned. If you're not scared of it, then leave things the way they are: there is nothing to be afraid of. It has been made clear by multiple posters representing both sides of the aisle why anonymous posting should be curbed - at least in the politics forums. Your deliberately moving the goalposts here doesn't help your case. Of course, as previously mentioned - it is most likely already too late at this point...
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Post by patricktm on Jul 2, 2018 16:07:03 GMT -5
Well shows the point that it's not the anonymous poster's fault their posts are being read. If you're too weak to not read or simply ignore them, you're the problem. Stop reading my posts, you said you don't want to see guest posters anymore, so don't read them. Especially don't quote them. I am a useless guest poster after all. Quoting simply emphasizes the text again since you're repeating it. These are merely practice posts for those who are too weak to ignore guest posts and instead get so inflamed about them. WEAK. Now take this as an exercise and STOP REPLYING TO POSTS YOU DON'T WANT TO READ. ... or is it that you find value in these posts that you want to keep supporting guest posting? Sure looks like it. Great, another reason to keep guest posting enabled! Wah Wah Wah. One problem is that we have to often wade through numerous nonsense trolling that is the hallmark of many trolls. They simply want to be a nuisance and provoke rather than engage in discussion. I have seen times when there as many as 15 "guests" and only one or two registered members. Why even have membership if the guests are the predominate ones posting?
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Post by rjhenn on Jul 2, 2018 18:41:15 GMT -5
What is reputable anymore? Certainly not you! And neither are you. At least I'm willing to take responsibility for what I post.
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Post by Interesting on Jul 2, 2018 18:42:05 GMT -5
Yes, why even have membership?
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Post by rjhenn on Jul 2, 2018 18:44:42 GMT -5
Just because they say they aren't biased doesn't mean they aren't biased. A single link is worthless, people have to research the facts themselves. Look at multiple distinct sources, even biased ones. Compare how they're written. Ensure the sources used are orthogonal. Don't assume anything given is always correct. Think. So any one single link is garbage because it is always demonstrating what the linker is wanting them to see. By definition it's biased. So tell me, is there any one single link that tells whether this specific post is true or not? Of course not. But the fact of the matter is that you still read it, you think it as important enough to read it and comment, so that means that it's not garbage despite it's from an anonymous poster. Everything rom an anonymous poster is garbage. That's why they're anonymous, so they can post garbage and just walk away from it.
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Post by Interesting on Jul 2, 2018 18:44:44 GMT -5
At least I'm willing to take responsibility for what I post. What responsibility is there really? What's posted is posted, if you were truly responsible you wouldn't even post. Doesn't matter what color the poster is.
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