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Post by msienkiewicz (Maryland) on Aug 21, 2018 14:29:53 GMT -5
One thing that I had suggested on the Android Beta board was having the ability to hide any challenges that you knew you wouldn't be completing. I'm not going to be near a Love's and it's been more than six years since I've been to one. I haven't been to a Flying J. I'd like to hide the Rooster Booster if I didn't get up early enough to do it.
It also would be nice if they could program in discounts that we tell them occur regularly at stations - so our prices don't get rejected because Monday is 10c off diesel, Tuesday is 20c off premium (making it - oh horrors - the same price as midgrade) and Thursdays have 5c off all grades of gasoline. Well, at least GB is handling the Monday price change, and usually the Thursday.
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Post by evac93rd on Aug 26, 2018 16:49:21 GMT -5
Well Get rid of the Leaderboard....I'm really tired of fake prices
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Post by CampKohler (Sacramento CA) on Sept 11, 2018 19:16:51 GMT -5
The suggestion I would make is the use of software to judge the accuracy of price reporters. If one makes a mistake from time to time, it would let that go, but if one repeatedly makes reports that differ from the crowd, it would change your grade until you clean up your act. Maybe X stars out of five kind of thing, so that everyone would know how good you are. Perhaps have an appeals board to deal with a member who believes the software is wronging him or her. (Whether you would use the rating to prevent loss of accuracy somehow would be a separate matter.)
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Post by Pigeon007 on Sept 16, 2018 11:59:51 GMT -5
Perhaps have an appeals board to deal with a member who believes the software is wronging him or her. (Whether you would use the rating to prevent loss of accuracy somehow would be a separate matter.) Yes the appeals board would be definitely needed with the current app. I can drive into a station and tap the station on the app, and I will see the 4 grades listed side by side horizontally, I then check the pump & all prices are the same as shown on the app.I then tap 1 of the prices to bring me to the "Report Prices" page where they are listed vertically with confirm price so I tap all 4 as I drive off. The only problem is that they have one of the prices changed, so if you don't proofread before tapping" submit" you end up reporting an incorrect price.
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Post by SUVFan on Sept 16, 2018 17:17:04 GMT -5
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Post by scoutmaster on Sept 26, 2018 3:59:30 GMT -5
I would take away the points. That is what seemed to create the biggest problem.
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Post by scoutmaster on Sept 27, 2018 3:59:21 GMT -5
Why does the carrot and stick need to be anything more than helping others?
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Post by scoutmaster on Oct 9, 2018 4:03:30 GMT -5
Perhaps your consternation with GasBuddy is the excessive quantity of leaderboarding. Doubtless, it's unfair that some folks have more gas stations within a reasonable reach than others.
My consternation is the point system promotes cheating.
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Post by TomB on Oct 9, 2018 7:04:27 GMT -5
"Consecutive days" would not be an issue. It appears for some it motivates inaccurate entries.
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Post by geezer on Nov 3, 2018 14:46:22 GMT -5
I stopped posting prices when they did away with the forums. Best thing I ever did. I can drive/ride in peace now and not be risking my life posting prices while trying to drive at the same time.
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Post by scoutmaster on Nov 19, 2018 7:46:45 GMT -5
I post the daily crude and wholesale prices in this subject. Gives a good baseline.
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Post by Pigeon007 on Nov 19, 2018 14:13:04 GMT -5
I post the daily crude and wholesale prices in this subject. Gives a good baseline. Not, at all, related to the thread, but... uh... thanks for the bump... I guess.I think Scoutmatser was suggesting that current daily crude price would be a nice feature to see on a new GB or Other.
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Post by scoutmaster on Nov 20, 2018 4:51:26 GMT -5
I think Scoutmatser was suggesting that current daily crude price would be a nice feature to see on a new GB or Other. If that generous assumption is true, it's an interesting idea, but prices at the pump cannot be predicted from wholesale crude futures. Believe me, I'd tried for years to find one. There's far too many supply chain factors between crude and the gas station. There's a correlation, yes, not a predictive one (even including nor excluding arbitrage).
Pump prices don't even comport state-to-state. Here's GB's own chart, as an example;
Notice that the movements don't always correlate even state-to-state.
Even crude futures and gasoline futures don't directly correlate price. Here's a sloppy overlay of RBZ18 and CLZ18; (non-averaged, biased, ungraded)
Also notice the movement/s of either don't match at-pump prices of any state.
That little bump in futures benchmark from last may indicate that gas prices have reached their resistance, and current pump prices may have plateaued, and will begin to creep upward, again. But, in my experience and historical observation, neither of those are a guarantee. (I am taking that bet, though, and filling up next chance I get.)
When I tell you that I'd've found a crude-to-pump prediction algorithm, I mean I've looked for one for years. I actually once found a predictability algorithm for gold futures price movement that worked more than half the time, going back all the way to late 1999. Then in 2009, at the G20 summit, Obama convinced China to set a deadline to cease overt currency manipulation, and it stopped working on that deadline. Oh well. Made enough money to buy a decent used car out of it. LOLThat's exactly what I was doing. More information is always good. Actually, wholesale does correlate to the retail price.
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Post by Pigeon007 on Nov 20, 2018 10:44:08 GMT -5
On GB they have you province (state) trend & your country trend. I think that is where the "Crude trend" could be shown. I agree Gashole, that there is no direct link in prices, and probably not much of a corrolation at all (although there is some). If Crude was shown it would be a handy way to keep an eye on it.
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Post by Pigeon007 on Nov 20, 2018 11:25:01 GMT -5
Surprised I didn't think of this, before. I had an idea for allowing a fair price comparison of different percentages of ethanol, since ethanol has lower energy than gasoline. I can't decide which would be the best way to compare; dollar-per-megajoule, or energy equivalent of E10 (since E10 is the most common fuel).
Example;Grade | E0 | E10 | E15 | E85 | pump price | 2.999
| 2.459
| 2.419
| 2.339
| $-per-MJ | 0.02463
| 0.02054
| 0.02038
| 0.02244
| E10 equiv. | 2.948
| 2.459
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Which do y'all think would be the best way to compare energy-to-price?
Another drawback of comparing this way is that the ethanol number isn't always actual quantity. E10 can often be E8, or even E4. E85 never E85 - it's actually between E51 and E83. I like the equivalent price, but I would do the E0 equivalent.(it by far the most common in British Columbia, & I believe Canada. I think you would just have to pick some averages like E8, E13,& E75 to use as the quantity calculation #s.
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