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Post by SUVFan on Apr 8, 2018 7:17:21 GMT -5
CK, I think you need to institute a new rule...No post allowed unless you are a member...so people can block the nonsense.
I noticed, too, that with the freeforums system, you can search for members' posts, but not for guests' posts. That seems out of whack, too.
CampKohler (Sacramento CA), is there a setting at your disposal to limit guests' posting ability? We're now two weeks past the big event, so I'd think that by now folks would know if this is their place or not. |
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Post by Hemond on Apr 8, 2018 7:27:33 GMT -5
Indeed, it is a pleasure to be able to use the styling elements of a modern message board/blogging platform.
If anything, I'd like to see the full set of BBcode tags available instead of the somewhat limited set available
here on this particular board.
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Post by picturefreak on Apr 8, 2018 11:05:16 GMT -5
Of course there's capability to remove guests' ability to post. But I would hope to think that the number of posts I've done, there was exactly one that doesn't really have a point - at least when looking at the surface. Quite a few of them solve mysteries, and I intended others to invite people to step back and think.
Step back a second and you'll realize that I have not broken any policy, just made people uncomfortable because they don't like what I say specifically on this topic. And it's simply to make the forum look tidy.
Unfortunately as Edward Abbey says, Society is like a stew. If you don't stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum floats to the top.
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Post by dirtgirl (TwinCities,MN) on Apr 8, 2018 21:51:06 GMT -5
It got me to thinking that your posting style is a lot like Barbee's from the Peg way back before GB went beta. She too liked to beat a topic to death.
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Post by picturefreak on Apr 9, 2018 2:25:33 GMT -5
Except the problem is that the threads still looks unprofessional due to constantly varying font sizes - which apparently is for the sole purpose of a false sense of "self expression." The hope is that people at least understand what the problem of unnecessary font size changes between posts are if not just for the inconvenience and irony it generates. And the alternative is to simply ignore my posts? You will not see me posting why I think the forum threads look ugly anywhere else BUT this thread - if you don't want to see these posts, don't visit this thread. There is no need to reply - just keep on doing what you're doing, pretend this didn't happen.
I am glad that the top level topic lists cannot be font/color/size changed (though the mods should be allowed to for stickied or otherwise high priority topics). The fixed size/color forum topics will at least disguise the ugliness underneath.
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Post by CampKohler (Sacramento CA) on Apr 9, 2018 10:31:59 GMT -5
I am in favor of letting the critters run unfettered through the tulips unless and until it interferes with everyone's else's ability to enjoy the bounty of our new home.
Some have told me that they stay guest to avoid conflict with former disagreeable GBers, and it is hard to find fault with trying to keep the peace. As we are all pretty much anonymous here (and formerly there), there is very little that can be argued for registration other than consistency of identity and some loss of function, mainly PMs. If someone chooses to remain the same guest over the long haul, I suppose that maintains some measure of consistency, and if they want to put up with some loss of function, well so be it. I would recommend that they just register with a new "personality" and start over in this, our witness protection program. In the end, no matter how many of us might agree that it is best to register, to force the issue by requiring registration is IMHO a tad too authoritarian considering what we do here and the lack of life-and-death responsibilities. I think we can live with a few oddballs amongst us, especially if they behave nicely.
This is not to say that we shouldn't keep exerting subtitle pressure to be "normal." You don't get a pearl unless you can get that little irritating grain of sand in there in the first place, do you? (Now I've gone too far, haven't I?)
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Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Apr 9, 2018 10:37:50 GMT -5
I tried using a different name..eg California Dreamer, but l was found out and they broadcast it so l went back to gb name. After also trying LOL for a while.
PS. l have changed my mind. I like posts that are at least in font size #3 and wonder could the entire site be at least that size? i enlarge on my own computer, but when it posts it reverts to that smaller size as do many others and l find it just annoying to say the least to be this size.
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Post by picturefreak on Apr 9, 2018 11:02:42 GMT -5
I tried using a different name..eg California Dreamer, but l was found out and they broadcast it so l went back to gb name. After also trying LOL for a while. PS. l have changed my mind. I like posts that are at least in font size #4 and wonder could the entire site be at least that size? i enlarge on my own computer, but when it posts it reverts to that smaller size as do many others and l find it just annoying to say the least to be this size. See, I'd have no problem if the default size was #4 and nobody needed to change it - and everything shows up like it. Then if someone thinks it uses too much space, can outright change everything smaller and nobody needs to worry about anything -- up until you go back to any other website or go to any website. Ideally every website out there should show up "about" the same size and you fix it on your computer so that every site shows up easy to read. Surely they don't all need to be the same font of course, heck not every page on a particular site even needs to match each other - just needs to be fairly consistent within a particular page to make it not look ratty. But size should be fairly consistent and then people won't need to be constantly changing their font sizes and be allowed to RIP ... read in peace. Forums are weird beasts because you, the poster, are now part of the page layout writers (including pictures, tables that don't show up properly, text that doesn't reflow properly around fixed structures like the above, etc. ) and have to keep all these things in mind when writing. |
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Post by cgrover (Twin Cities, MN) on Apr 9, 2018 12:16:36 GMT -5
Is this a professional organization website? Why, do they need to look professional? I like variety in posts. Adds some life to it.
CK, isn't it possible to create your ID to be anything you want? If you wanted to come here and be in the 'program', couldn't a person just create a new name? If they wanted another member to know who they were, they could contact them thru a message or something? I wasn't afraid, so I used my last name used in GB.
4/11/18 Added a comment to see if I could edit this far back. I can.
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Post by CampKohler (Sacramento CA) on Apr 9, 2018 15:05:58 GMT -5
Picturefreak: I fixed your typo, so now you owe us the grand gesture of registering (a form of karma). ---- ...I enlarge on my own computer, but when it posts it reverts....; This would be something worth investing some time in investigating, and hopefully develop a workaround. I haven't noticed it with the browsers I have been using, but then I wasn't looking for it. (When I use Safari on the iPhone, you have to get used not only to sizes jumping around as you work, but the place you currently see in the text while you are typing elsewhere keeps you mentally on one's toes. It's a whole different world from the PC!) Please say which browser you are using, and I will try to duplicate it when I am at a PC Tuesday. If I can't, then that may be a good thing, because it may point to something you are doing vs. a defect in the browser, and the former is immediately fixable. BTW, does it do it with a different browser? (You should have several installed for testing, even if you have a strong preference for just one.) ---- cgrover: If you like variety so much, perhaps you should start an Arts & Crafts Board thread artistically oriented towards towards maximizing that aspect of posting. You could use the poll feature to judge all the posts of each monthly thread there and give an award for the best—according to whatever standards you wish—post. Maybe a new Banksy would emerge. The winning post could be transferred to an award thread that would act as an archive for the greats of the art that could be perused by visitors, saving them from plowing through all the past threads to find the Mona Lisas. It might be like herding cats to get all the secret artists to exercise their BB code fantasies in that board, but it would be worth the effort if we could iron out (in the sense of smoothing wrinkles) the rest of the forum. A pipe dream, I know.... Your reasoning for registration is impeccable. But alas, impeccable reasoning is not sufficient for swaying the maddening crowds here any more than it is in any other political arena. But I encourage you to keep swinging. I will too. I think that even if there were problems "over there" due to poor behavior, they are far less likely to pop up here, because whatever time constraints caused staff to allow things to get out of hand do not exist here. Suffice it to say, swift action can "nip it in the bud" (as Deputy BF was wont to say). That possibility may be the key reason that—knock on gorilla glass—so far, there has been absolutely no need for any nipping whatsoever. That is a joyous result for us all. Finally, I wish to comment on the direction of this thread. It has turned into something useful I think, and should be elevated above the ordinary droppings one finds in the Sandbox. To that end I shall wave my magic finger (iPhone, remember?) and transport you all to a permanent home in a more elegant board. Congratulations. |
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Post by hwy60 (Milwaukee) on Apr 9, 2018 18:01:27 GMT -5
This is a funny thread. Must be that some people have way too much free time. ~ I've been on GB for over 13 years, along with other buddies who had been there even longer. When that was over many of us came here and were so delighted to have a variety of font controls!!!!  ~ Let's let ADM make the decisions. They've done very well so far. Thank you ADM. P.S. - And they do listen to and evaluate our suggestions. NICE! AND, it IS their site. Anybody is free to start their own.  |
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Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Apr 10, 2018 9:59:46 GMT -5
I use Google and sometimes my print jumps around also.. Especially on emails. I laughed when l had my computer set on enlarge to 175% and the heading read:
GBO (Great Big Organization) Foru
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The default print is way too small. This is number 3 and it is comfy , at least on whatever my computer is set at.... I looked and it is now at 110%
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Post by picturefreak on Apr 10, 2018 11:11:35 GMT -5
No, I'm still not convinced about registering!  Learning about your computer: Your monitor and your computer are an important part of the font visibility issue. Your monitor has a resolution measured in pixels (or dots), and also a physical size measured in inches/centimeters. Usually in the USA it would be inches. Now if the computer tries to print something 20 pixels wide, depending on how big your screen is, it could be minuscule (say, a 5.5" 1080p cellphone screen where the text would be 60 thousandths of an inch wide) or huge (say, a 15" monitor driven at 800x600, resulting in a text that's 0.3" wide). Except the computer wouldn't have a clue how big the text is showing up to you. However in this past decade, there is now a setting that can be set: DPI or Dots per Inch. In this case the computer will know if you print something that's 20 dots wide, it will show up 0.06" wide or 0.3" wide, and should automatically bump up the number of dots a character will print so that it will show up 0.3" wide on your screen! This still does not account for how far your eyes are to the screen as the effective DPI will go down if you sit far away from your monitor. That 0.3" wide text is still virtually illegible if you're 100 ft away from the screen. If you're using a monitor as an home theater PC, expect to artificially reduce the DPI setting so that fonts become legible. And don't forget that not everyone has 20/20 vision. The problem now is: page writers expect the reader to know how far you're sitting from the screen as well as how big your screen is? No, these should be set in your computer and not the responsibility of the web page writer/forum poster. That's why font sizes should be sparingly chosen in web pages - only used for emphasis of key points, not readability. |
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Post by picturefreak on Apr 10, 2018 11:17:14 GMT -5
and again I write lies in my post, you have to artificially increase the DPI if you're sitting far away from the computer screen not decrease. Unfortunately when increasing font sizes, as witnessed by text wrapping around when it uses too many pixels, this only works to a point and your screen starts looking ratty again.
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Post by CampKohler (Sacramento CA) on Apr 10, 2018 11:47:11 GMT -5
This is new stuff to be noodled on. Just to be contentious, what was the size as compared to the old forum? Was nothing said there about size simply because there were no choices about which to argue?
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