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Post by SUVFan on Jun 17, 2018 8:16:01 GMT -5
This is a place to discuss the 2018 Majors and the Ryder Cup. The Masters is already in the books -- Patrick Reed bagged his first Major win. The US Open is being played at Shinnecock Hills Golf Course on Long Island. The final round is this afternoon. Reed is in contention again. Tiger isn't. He finished his first two rounds at 10 over par, 2 strokes over the cut line. Phil was in contention until #4 yesterday when he carded a 10 that might have been worse except for some creative use of the rules of golf. DJ would have been running away with it, but was +7 yesterday, starting round 4 at +3. This year's [Brittish] Open Championship will take place July 19–22 at Carnoustie. The last major, the 2018 PGA Championship, will be held on August 9—12 at Bellerive Country Club in St. Louis. More on Bellerive. Finally, the Ryder Cup will be held September 28th through the 30th at Le Golf National in Guyancourt, France.
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Post by Zim on Jun 18, 2018 12:00:24 GMT -5
Rather than talk about the elephant in the room of Mickelson thumbing his nose at the USGA's set-up on Saturday, I'd rather talk about the gutty effort by Koepka in winning back to back US Open's.
His clutch putting for par and bogey in the middle of his round Sunday were huge, and gave him just the breathing room he needed to outlast Shinnecock Hills and the remarkable early 63 posted by Tommy Fleetwood. That missed short put for 62 by Fleetwood amazingly would have got him in a playoff.
It's unfortunate that nobody is talking about the great accomplishments of Koepka and Fleetwood and everybody is talking about the course set-up unfairly penalizing players and Mickelson's breach of the rules. Granted they can't control the wether, but when the early tee times can shoot 66 while the afternoon ones are 10 shots higher there is something tainted about the whole tournament.
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Post by SUVFan on Jun 19, 2018 19:55:32 GMT -5
Good thoughts, Zim.
I thought Mickelson's rules violation was well calculated. He dashed around after his 5th stroke on the hole and got into a putting stance and, for his 6th stroke, he struck the ball in motion. That's a two shot penalty. It took him 2 more to get down. So he made a 10. Imagine the uproar if he'd holed the putt he made when he struck the ball in motion? Not likely, but possible. Then he'd have made a 7! It would have been different if, say, he'd simply stuck his putter out and stopped the ball. Then he'd have risked a DQ because he interfered with a ball in play instead of playing a moving ball. Semantics? Pretty much but the rules are the rules.
I remember a few years ago when Tiger appeared to be in jail behind a huge boulder that was thought to be stationary by nearly everyone. Except Tiger! He called a bunch of spectators over and they rolled the boulder out of the way, giving Tiger an unobstructed line to the hole. Then there was the idiocy of the rules when the Walrus' ball was under a bush in some tall grass and he laid a towel on the ground and knelt on the towel to keep his trousers clean and whacked the ball out from under the bush, marginally better than taking an unplayable lie penalty as it turned out. Except for the towel part -- that was considered "building a stance" and even though it was obvious that he gained no advantage -- except maybe the $5 bucks it might have cost to have his hotel launder the trousers! -- the use of the towel cost him a 2 stroke penalty. Except he didn't know that when he signed his scorecard and some viewer called it in to TV and Stadler ended up being DQ'ed when I believe he would have won even with the penalty. Different situations in some respects but it's the same in that the rules are the rules and they don't always work a just result.
I was pulling for Patrick Reed as he made the turn, but he fell apart on the back nine. I was hoping to see him get his second major in a row -- that hasn't happened since Tiger's wife beat him up with a driver. But I'm very good with Koepka winning back to back US Opens -- the first to pull that off this century! It was fitting that Curtis Strange -- the last to win back to back US Opens -- was doing the interview following the awards ceremony. I didn't see much play on Saturday, so I don't understand how DJ -- he'd been playing so well -- managed +7 and squandered what would have been a huge lead. He may have gone Greg Norman on Sunday, I guess, and that would have been worse. The bottom line is that there are just a ton of good players right now, any of whom is capable of getting red hot and winning any tournament. Add Fleetwood to the list.
You're right that the course conditions changed dramatically during the day. Some of that was wind, and that's always been a luck of the draw kind of thing. And some guys managed to shoot low scores on the bad days/bad times. Not many, but it happened. Because of the set up, the players always whine about conditions at the US Open. I think the zeal to keep scores close to par does interfere with the golf course and can render it an unfair test. Next year, they return to Pebble where the high rough will pretty much be all they need to do to keep scores fairly high. The winds almost always show up out there.
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Post by jimco22 on Jun 23, 2018 19:26:02 GMT -5
Good luck to 40 year old Paul Casey tomorrow who shot a career best 62, four shot
lead heading into final round of Travelers Championship in Connecticut !
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Post by SUVFan on Jun 23, 2018 20:09:18 GMT -5
Good luck to 40 year old Paul Casey tomorrow who shot a career best 62, four shot lead heading into final round of Travelers Championship in Connecticut ! Casey lost The Travelers to Bubba Watson in a playoff in 2015. Bubba was near the lead when I tuned in today. Rematch? If he's playing well, maybe it bodes well for him with The Open Championship coming up soon? He's never won a Major. Might this be Casey's year?
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Post by SUVFan on Jul 14, 2018 8:07:36 GMT -5
Less than a week away from the 3rd Major of the year! The Open Championship makes it's 8th trip to Carnoustie this year. Yes, Carnoustie: Where we should expect the unexpected. Padrig Harrington managed to hold on for the win last time it was played here, though Sergio lipped out on the 18th, keeping Harrington in the game. Carnoustie is the course that put Jean Van der Velde's name in the books in 1999, but not as a winner. Paul Lawrie took home the prize in the 4 man playoff. It's a tossup between Van der Velde and Norman for biggest choke/meltdown in a major. But Norman's occurred over several holes. Van der Velde did it all on the 18th, much more dramatic in my book. The more impressive list of former winners is Watson ('75), Player ('68), Hogan ('53), Cotton ('37), and Armour ('31). Fun fact: The course was barely 6,400 yards long back when Armour won in '31, nearly 1,000 yards shorter than this year's 7,004 yard set up. Zim, jimco22, or anyone else have any thoughts on who may be the Champion Golfer of the Year in 2018? This article says Rory's hopeful. Developing.
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Post by jimco22 on Jul 14, 2018 14:35:02 GMT -5
Feel the Open Championship will have a surprise winner this year, just my gut feeling, should be a good one none the less.
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Post by jimco22 on Jul 21, 2018 8:08:50 GMT -5
Watch out for Matt Kuchar or Tommy Fleetwood
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Post by Zim on Jul 21, 2018 11:07:23 GMT -5
Something I wasn't sure I would ever see again, but flipped on the Open coverage and Tiger Woods was tied for the lead at -6 through 15. As I type this though he bogied 16 and Kisner birdied to go to -7.
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Post by Zim on Jul 21, 2018 11:09:07 GMT -5
Tiger cards a 66 and ends his round tied for 5th. 66 is his lowest round in a major since the 2011 Masters. Looks like he will be in the hunt tomorrow, though he's never won a major without being in the lead after 3 rounds.
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Post by SUVFan on Jul 21, 2018 13:35:56 GMT -5
Tiger cards a 66 and ends his round tied for 5th. 66 is his lowest round in a major since the 2011 Masters. Looks like he will be in the hunt tomorrow, though he's never won a major without being in the lead after 3 rounds. Play is nearly over for the day. Tiger slipped down the leaderboard as guys surged ahead of him, but then mistakes knocked some of them back down. With only a few players still on the course, Tiger's -5 position that Zim noted is still good for a tie for 6th with six other players. Jordan Spieth made an attempt to steal the spotlight from Tiger, carding a -6, 65 today. Spieth is currently tied for the lead with Kisner and Schauffele at -9. The winds are forecast to pick up to the 20 mph range tomorrow, which will contrast with the fairly calm conditions today. It will be very interesting!
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Post by Zim on Jul 23, 2018 12:15:52 GMT -5
Well it wasn't THE Cinderella story for Tiger, as he got to -7 and sole possession of the lead, only to bogey and double bogey the next two holes. But it was a Cinderella story for Molinari who was the had a flawless weekend and got the birdie he needed down the stretch to win the Open.
He is the first Italian major champion and his bogey free weekend was the first at a major since Steve Elkington in the 1995 PGA.
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Post by SUVFan on Jul 30, 2018 20:25:00 GMT -5
Congrats to Molinari! That's a great win. He had to deal with Tiger at the top of a major leader board on Sunday -- the first time that's happened in years. Rory ended up second. Tiger should have tied for 2nd, but bogeyed the last, giving the Europeans a sweep of the top spots. One of the most impressive stats about Jack Nicklaus is the number of times he finished 2nd in the majors: 19 times! Rory played hard to the end. Tiger knew it was over and took his foot off the gas. Rory played earlier and would have been trying to put up as low a number as possible. I don't know how many of Jacks 2nds were of that type or how many were arguably chokes where he should have won. That would be an interesting project! Finally Jordan Spieth had a very tough Sunday, squandering a nice lead going into the last day. He still had a chance on the back nine but just couldn't get anything going and really couldn't make a putt to save his sole.
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Post by SUVFan on Jul 30, 2018 20:39:15 GMT -5
We're down to the last major of 2018. The PGA Championship will be held at Bellverie Country Club in St. Louis. Of the headlines listed at the link, I think Jordan Spieth is the story. Can he complete the career grand slam? He had a shot at it last year at Quail Hollow, but started poorly at 4 over par for the first two rounds. His play improved, shooting par on moving day and managing to go 1 under on Sunday, but his +3 overall left him 11 shots behind winner Justin Thomas. Obviously he'll need to get off to a better start this year if he's to have a chance.
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Post by grandpaj on Jul 31, 2018 7:06:41 GMT -5
I am not believing that Jordan can win it this year. This just is not his year. He has as many Missed Cuts as Top 5 finishes (5 each).
Tiger is improving. Could he win again and it be a major??? That definitely would make the headlines and be good for the world of Golf.
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