vgrewe
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Post by vgrewe on Mar 8, 2019 19:38:10 GMT -5
Thanks, SUV. I still post gas prices, the reason I went there to begin with, but it's not at all the same. Most of us feel that way it seems. I'm seeing a lot more stations without price posts these days. Their concept of crowdsourcing as a way to generate data appears to be failing. Same situation in my market. I'm all over town since i drive for Uber/Lyft as a side gig and I see lots of blank stations. People just don't post like the old days. Now i see DataFeed prices. I believe it is just GB guessing at prices - could be wrong about that, though.
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Post by CStarFire (Minnesota) on Mar 9, 2019 3:31:32 GMT -5
I have been with GB for 11 plus years. I didn't realize all there was to the site at the the time. I entered only gas prices where they were not listed. I didn't know you could get points for stations already reported on. It was only about four years ago that I figured out what it was all about and went from 66,000th in the nation to below 10,000 place. I reported on my home computer and could not keep up with smart phone users so that's why I got a cheap smart phone. But I could not keep up with certain people who sat at home and entered 100s of prices a day and a large percentage of them were wrong. I wasn't so much reporting prices as I was correcting them. GBs last points scheme that I was involved in was a disaster for accurate prices. I and a lot of others gained upwards of a million points but so many people cheated (entered false prices) that I couldn't trust the prices listed. Then they dumped the forums. I stopped reporting soon after that. I still check GB for prices but have noticed that many prices are not recent and on my last three trips stations along the way with the lowest prices were all higher when I got there. So here we are at the one year mark and we have about 100 regular (daily) users and about 2-3 times more lurkers. I have noticed that people love to join things and then not utilize them. In most organizations it works out to about 1 out of 10 meaning that since we have about 680 members we could expect 68 people to be fully active so we're above that but we would all like to see more people come on board. As for the lurkers - I don't understand what they see that attracts them. Since I work nights and am up all night on my off nights I will come on here at all hours of the night. One night recently I came on at about 3AM to play some games and found no members but 25 guests logged on. What could be so interesting to all these people? There hadn't been any players in over 2 hours. I thank all of the members for hanging on through the last year with all the fun learning the way things work over here.
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Post by SUVFan on Mar 9, 2019 8:26:31 GMT -5
Now i see DataFeed prices. I believe it is just GB guessing at prices - could be wrong about that, though. Hi, vgrew! Welcome to GBO! I would not be surprised at all to hear GasBuddy is experimenting with different ways to get prices. Their model depends on having up to date, accurate prices yet budgets no funds to obtain them beyond their investment in the app programing. I discount the daily gas card drawing as I'm confident that there's an arrangement with the card providers that does not involve GB parting with cash.
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vgrewe
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Post by vgrewe on Mar 11, 2019 11:12:05 GMT -5
So here we are at the one year mark and we have about 100 regular (daily) users and about 2-3 times more lurkers. I have noticed that people love to join things and then not utilize them. In most organizations it works out to about 1 out of 10 meaning that since we have about 680 members we could expect 68 people to be fully active so we're above that but we would all like to see more people come on board. As for the lurkers - I don't understand what they see that attracts them. People join things to explore them - to see what they have to offer. If they find that the thing/organization doesn't really interest them or doesn't benefit them, they don't participate or leave. As for here, the current pissing match between some members offers nothing positive to a curious onlooker and drives some of them away - just like the old forum. Others may view said pissing match as entertainment and stay for the show.
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vgrewe
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Post by vgrewe on Mar 11, 2019 11:17:01 GMT -5
Now i see DataFeed prices. I believe it is just GB guessing at prices - could be wrong about that, though. Hi, vgrew! Welcome to GBO! Greetings back at ya, SUVFan!
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Post by VanIsleRover on Mar 11, 2019 13:00:50 GMT -5
Nice to see new members on here.
Welcome to GBO 🤗
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Post by sneakers (Metro Houston) on Mar 27, 2019 15:55:21 GMT -5
Today is the first anniversary of the partial demise of the GasBuddy forums, photo albums, and whiteboards. It's been a year, and the powers that be at GasBuddy haven't cleaned up their label scars or their dead links.
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Post by sneakers (Metro Houston) on Mar 27, 2019 16:06:16 GMT -5
Now i see DataFeed prices. I believe it is just GB guessing at prices - could be wrong about that, though. To quote GasBuddy on the meaning of a price reported by DataFeed:
"Fuel prices submitted with the label DataFeed are fuel prices that are syndicated through other platforms that capture fuel prices and are submitted to GasBuddy to be published. These are the lowest priority type of prices we receive, and you will only see this type of price if we haven't seen a member or owner price on that station in awhile.
These prices are not meant to compete with member prices, and are simply another data source GasBuddy can leverage to provide our users with accurate fuel prices. These prices have no impact on the ability for a GasBuddy member to report prices on that location."
Wonder... are they scraping other data sources?
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vgrewe
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Post by vgrewe on Mar 28, 2019 15:51:23 GMT -5
Now i see DataFeed prices. I believe it is just GB guessing at prices - could be wrong about that, though. To quote GasBuddy on the meaning of a price reported by DataFeed:
"Fuel prices submitted with the label DataFeed are fuel prices that are syndicated through other platforms that capture fuel prices and are submitted to GasBuddy to be published. These are the lowest priority type of prices we receive, and you will only see this type of price if we haven't seen a member or owner price on that station in awhile.
These prices are not meant to compete with member prices, and are simply another data source GasBuddy can leverage to provide our users with accurate fuel prices. These prices have no impact on the ability for a GasBuddy member to report prices on that location."
Wonder... are they scraping other data sources?Yes, I read what GB says about DataFeed prices a while ago.....doesn't mean I believe what GB says. In my area, DataFeed prices are frequently wrong so I doubt that they are syndicated through other platforms. But...if they are, those other platforms are terribly inaccurate. I could be wrong, as I said earlier. Like others have stated, people in my market just aren't reporting prices like the old days. There are often tons of stations without reported prices. I'm thinking DataFeed is GB's feeble attempt to fill in some holes so they look a little less pathetic.
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Post by edindetroit on Apr 15, 2019 11:51:12 GMT -5
I have been with GB for 11 plus years. I didn't realize all there was to the site at the the time. I entered only gas prices where they were not listed. I didn't know you could get points for stations already reported on. It was only about four years ago that I figured out what it was all about and went from 66,000th in the nation to below 10,000 place. I reported on my home computer and could not keep up with smart phone users so that's why I got a cheap smart phone. But I could not keep up with certain people who sat at home and entered 100s of prices a day and a large percentage of them were wrong. I wasn't so much reporting prices as I was correcting them. GBs last points scheme that I was involved in was a disaster for accurate prices. I and a lot of others gained upwards of a million points but so many people cheated (entered false prices) that I couldn't trust the prices listed. Then they dumped the forums. I stopped reporting soon after that. I still check GB for prices but have noticed that many prices are not recent and on my last three trips stations along the way with the lowest prices were all higher when I got there. So here we are at the one year mark and we have about 100 regular (daily) users and about 2-3 times more lurkers. I have noticed that people love to join things and then not utilize them. In most organizations it works out to about 1 out of 10 meaning that since we have about 680 members we could expect 68 people to be fully active so we're above that but we would all like to see more people come on board. As for the lurkers - I don't understand what they see that attracts them. Since I work nights and am up all night on my off nights I will come on here at all hours of the night. One night recently I came on at about 3AM to play some games and found no members but 25 guests logged on. What could be so interesting to all these people? There hadn't been any players in over 2 hours. I thank all of the members for hanging on through the last year with all the fun learning the way things work over here. And that is what is wrong with having a point system in the first place. Too many will game the system just to see their name at the top of some meaningless list.
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Post by sneakers (Metro Houston) on Aug 8, 2019 8:41:58 GMT -5
And that is what is wrong with having a point system in the first place. Too many will game the system just to see their name at the top of some meaningless list. The downside of GasBuddy's gamification of data entry. (Didn't know that term until I saw it in Patrick DeHaan's LinkedIn profile and I looked it up in Wikipedia.) Although as the GasBuddy App gains more ad features, they seem to break the usability of the app. And problems that are blatantly obvious to me seem to never get fixed. Specifically, the price and distance sort stays exactly the same as the device moves, but data on the distance to the stations change.
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Post by VanIsleRover on Aug 10, 2019 17:29:58 GMT -5
Going with the flow.
Have a few links bookmarked.
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Post by sneakers (Metro Houston) on Oct 5, 2019 10:47:28 GMT -5
The downside of GasBuddy's gamification of data entry. (Didn't know that term until I saw it in Patrick DeHaan's LinkedIn profile and I looked it up in Wikipedia.) Although as the GasBuddy App gains more ad features, they seem to break the usability of the app. And problems that are blatantly obvious to me seem to never get fixed. Specifically, the price and distance sort stays exactly the same as the device moves, but data on the distance to the stations change.
Realized that you don't want to refresh the price and distance list during data entry (that is, when I'm riding in the passenger seat). Also, if you're moving around you really don't want the list updating itself. Seems that GasBuddy ran into problems when they inserted stations in the list. At least once, I updated one station when I thought I was updating another.
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Post by MidnightSun on Oct 14, 2019 9:50:16 GMT -5
Gave up that other site for 1½ years. Then wanted to save $$ at the pump during a trip. Choose a station along the way w/the price posted by 'Data Feed.' Good Heavens, it was $.40 lower than the pump price. Visited GB again to see 'Data Feed' is always artificially low. Now back to posting the correct pump prices. Did read all about 'Data Feed' as "the lowest priority type of prices we (GB) receive, and you will only see this type of price if we haven't seen a member or owner price on that station in awhile." Around here that means one week.
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Post by VanIsleRover on Mar 1, 2020 15:40:34 GMT -5
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