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Post by stlhawk on Apr 8, 2018 15:22:06 GMT -5
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Post by gatewaysc on Apr 9, 2018 7:32:05 GMT -5
Was fortunate enough to place first in the architecture category of a photography contest with the photo. I know I'm a little late, but Congrats on some official recognition of a great shot.
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Post by stlhawk on Apr 9, 2018 13:53:04 GMT -5
Was fortunate enough to place first in the architecture category of a photography contest with the photo. I know I'm a little late, but Congrats on some official recognition of a great shot. Never too late. Thank you!
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Post by Almtnman (Alabama) on Apr 10, 2018 19:01:17 GMT -5
Imperial Palace, Seoul Korea. This photo was made many moons ago during my tour of duty there.
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Post by dmr on Apr 11, 2018 6:41:02 GMT -5
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Post by timothyu on Apr 11, 2018 11:50:51 GMT -5
DMR... In perusing your interesting gallery it occurred to me, that people forget using actual film in the day was no simple matter for us when it came to exposure and colour balance. Digital, with it's never ending roll of 'film' has taken a lot of the care out of shooting.
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Post by dmr on Apr 11, 2018 12:07:18 GMT -5
DMR... In perusing your interesting gallery it occurred to me, that people forget using actual film in the day was no simple matter for us when it came to exposure and colour balance. Digital, with it's never ending roll of 'film' has taken a lot of the care out of shooting. I think that, not really related to whether film or digital, the attention to detail factor is what has changed over the years. Most people shooting today seem to treat the higher-end camera as a point-and-shoot and don't really think of factors such as exposure, depth of field, color balance, etc. There are quite a few point-and-shoot film cameras that can be pretty much as easy to use, and to take an acceptable photo with, as the usual suspect digitals. Modern color negative film, when processed properly, can actually be quite forgiving as far as exposure and color temperature. Now when you're shooting transparencies, that's when the films can't take a joke! If you don't get the exposure correct you'll have blown highlights or shadows stuck down in the mud. Mixed indoor lighting can often times give you disappointing results shooting on color reversal film.
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Post by timothyu on Apr 11, 2018 12:24:55 GMT -5
When it came to colour, I preferred the slide film myself.
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Post by stlhawk on Apr 11, 2018 17:49:25 GMT -5
Happy Wednesday fellow photographers!
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Post by dmr on Apr 11, 2018 19:38:00 GMT -5
When it came to colour, I preferred the slide film myself. I don't know if you (and others) are aware of this, but Kodak is re-introducing Ektachrome and proof-of-performance samples have been sent to various processing labs for testing. I seldom shoot slides, but I will definitely check this out.
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Post by timothyu on Apr 11, 2018 21:18:16 GMT -5
Cool! With my memory what it is these days, it would be like starting all over again. lol Now if I can just convince my analog gear to come out of the retirement home and get my light meter off the respirator.
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Post by goldie on Apr 12, 2018 9:05:33 GMT -5
dmr said: "Now when you're shooting transparencies, that's when the films can't take a joke! If you don't get the exposure correct you'll have blown highlights or shadows stuck down in the mud. Mixed indoor lighting can often times give you disappointing results shooting on color reversal film." That's one of the reasons why it was always recommended to bracket. Shoot at least one stop over and one stop under as well as the one you think is correct. Of course that wouldn't solve all the problems, such as fluorescent lights photographing as green or some other color. Transparency film was beautiful when viewing backlit in a slide projector, but getting a quality print was difficult and expensive. There was loss of quality with internegs. Ilfochrome direct positives were very expensive but beautiful. Sometimes I had to have them print one of the outtake brackets in order to get the print right. Maybe because they were night shots. Anybody else ever have Ilfochrome prints made? Or make them yourself? Interesting that they are bringing back Ektachrome. That must mean that there are people going back to shooting film. Maybe my old film cams will be worth a little more now. I was going to try to trade them all in to upgrade the digital camera a friend sent me. It would be my first digital camera. But where are they going to get the Ektachrome processed, unless they do it themselves? And interesting that it's Ektachrome and not Kodachrome. Oh-oh, now I can't get Simon and Garfunkel out of my head. dmr, you said you seldom shoot slides. Do you shoot negative print film?
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Post by timothyu on Apr 12, 2018 11:04:40 GMT -5
A recent report for the stock market indicated a 15-20 % rise in film usage and production of processing chemicals in the next five years. My bet is that unless they make a film phone most will ignore film. lol However the military is moving away from digital and back to analog in many fields from navigation to image retention so this may account for some of the rise. This also should be an indication of the value of digital imaging after a pulse. Billions of images of a bought meal gone forever.
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Post by dmr on Apr 12, 2018 11:23:33 GMT -5
That's one of the reasons why it was always recommended to bracket. Shoot at least one stop over and one stop under as well as the one you think is correct. Of course that wouldn't solve all the problems, such as fluorescent lights photographing as green or some other color. If I'm shooting something not-that-contrasty in something close to "sunny 16" conditions, I'm usually confident enough to do one frame on transparency film. But as you say, I'll often bracket one under and over, and even two under and over for a total of five. I'll sometimes bracket two under and over using color negative film just to be sure. One advantage to digital is that you can quickly check to see if the exposure is correct or not. Back when I was in high school (so many years/decades ago I don't even want to think) and I wanted to do color, I would usually do Kodachrome or Ektachrome. The main reason is that color prints from color negatives were very expensive (for a starving high school student) and I only wanted prints of some of them, not the whole roll. With slides, I had the "proofs" right there. I would then have what they then called "Type R" prints made by the Kodak lab over in Fair Lawn (NJ) and they were actually quite nice, particularly when compared to the typical drug store color prints of color negatives of the day. I've never done any internegative prints or Ilfochrome, but I've done quite a few larger inkjet (excuse me, make that "Giclee'") prints from scanned slides. The lines "Film is dead" and "Film is coming back" have been run into the ground ever since digital got a foothold. Quite a few people have never quit shooting film, such as pros of certain genres and hobbyists. It's also become en vogue in the "lo-fi" genre of the younger set. Look at all of the Lomography shops that have sprung up. Many Leica models have held their value well. However, most of the "usual suspects" in typical 30-40 year condition have not. Many black models command premium prices. Canon GIII rangefinders in black often go for $200 or so in good condition. One was on Ebay not too long ago for around $2000 but I don't know if it ever sold. Labs still do it, but quite a few do it themselves. I have one of those Jobo machines and I do color negative film in it, and I could do E6 just by getting the chemistry. When Kodak was sending out trial balloons, there was talk of resuming Kodachrome as well, but the big roadblock is that it requires a special process and the last lab to do it (Dwayne's Photo in Kansas) shut down their K-line machine some time ago and virtually every K-Line and K-Lab machine has been scrapped or is destined to be. Almost all of my film over the past 20 years or so has been color negative. I did a number of rolls of Kodachrome in the 2000-oughts and a few various Fuji E6 just for the heck of it. I haven't shot any B&W film for over 20 years.
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Post by dmr on Apr 12, 2018 11:27:57 GMT -5
My bet is that unless they make a film phone most will ignore film. Not to be a total snot here, but I'm of the opinion that taking a serious photo with a phone is about as practical as making a phone call using a Pentax Spotmatic! (**MEOW**)
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