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Post by picture that! on Jun 1, 2018 13:07:39 GMT -5
It's because you must have wrote something that itched the other guy. Granted the other guy had to itch back at you.
Everything posted has their consequences. It ultimately was something you wrote, likewise you're posting something in response to what I wrote.
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Post by weaslespit on Jun 1, 2018 13:59:34 GMT -5
It's because you must have wrote something that itched the other guy. Granted the other guy had to itch back at you. Everything posted has their consequences. It ultimately was something you wrote, likewise you're posting something in response to what I wrote. Why are you trying to justify ad hominem and personal attacks?
And btw - you are only as anonymous as your IP address - In fact, just by posting here you are giving the government your location each and every time you write something... Whichever fake e-mail address and name you register here under are irrelevant in that regard - that is if you are honestly trying to remain anonymous.
Just sayin'
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Post by another picture on Jun 1, 2018 16:59:55 GMT -5
Because you must have done it first by the way you write your responses. I can see how you write - you're asking for it!
There is no problem with IP address up until each website has a warrant against them. And the other problem you fail to understand despite writing it already: it's NOT the government I'm worried about. It's big business that needs to be held back.
Whoever has been attacking weaslespit... I'd have to agree with them. This guy deserves it, at the very least for registering 'picturefreak'!
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Post by patricktm on Jun 1, 2018 20:21:14 GMT -5
Solution is to ban intolerance to opposing views
Well, the problem with trolls is not that they have opposing views. It's that they have no view -- they post numerous nonsensical utterances and ad hominem attacks rather than a real view. They'll come on and post maybe 10 such types of posts in a matter of a few minutes and then disappear. Posting a few words of personal attacks is not an "opposing view."
Would you let a kindergartner go around and call fellow students names and and provoke them in the hopes of starting a fight? Same with Trolls. They are doing the same thing. I ignore them, but they clutter up the time line and you have to look to see if they are the last post or have covered up several posts, even if those several posts are opposing views.
To me a troll is not someone who posts opposing views or even who disagrees with me specifically or generally. Rather they are someone whose sole purpose is to annoy.
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Post by picturesque on Jun 1, 2018 21:58:15 GMT -5
I found that people who are claimed "trolls" are always someone who disagrees with the status quo in that particular topic. They always have a view: anything BUT YOURS! And every time they say something that disagrees with you, you cry troll.
They didn't start the "fight": You did by posting something that's intolerant of them: they were annoyed. So they annoy you back.
Just ignore them. Scroll past them. That's the only thing sensible to do. If you can't stop but read their post, well, it's not their problem: it's yours.
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Post by take a picture on Jun 2, 2018 11:17:25 GMT -5
Thought question of the day:
What do you do when a bully comes up to you and call you names?
1. Yell MOMMY! and all is better 2. Call them names back. 3. Ignore them and walk away.
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Post by patricktm on Jun 2, 2018 12:09:31 GMT -5
Interesting the person here who is defending trolls and their use of the board without registering is also a troll not registering.
In the U.S. Politics group, of the most recent 29 topics, the most recent person posting in 16, more than half, are those who have not registered. There are 4 of them who post numerous nonsense in a row.
I know of no comment, opinion board, etc. that does not require someone to register to comment. They can view as much as they want without registering, but not comment without being registered. There is no valid reason to not require registration to participate as an active registered user. Earlier there was one member and 18 "guests" with many posts coming form the "guests." That is disproportionate by any measure.
Ignoring them is a philosophy I adhere to, but that just seems to encourage them posting their nonsense, sometimes repeatedly, making you wade through their nonsense to find a post worth reading.
They have all the benefits of membership except the ability to see the list of members and to edit their responses, not that editing is necessary for their rambling drivel.
I have found that "trolls" are people who post nonsense over and over rather than addressing the issue at hand. Calling people names, or posting ROTFL over and over, etc. over as a response is not "someone who disagrees with the status quo in that particular topic" but someone who is just trying to disrupt a particular topic.
On the politics board, there are a lot of people whom I disagree with. But I don't think or say they are trolls. I simply explain to them why I am right and they are wrong. But I don't consider any of them to be trolls. Simply misinformed so I try to inform them. ROTFL
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picture from another viewpoint
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Post by picture from another viewpoint on Jun 2, 2018 12:39:53 GMT -5
See that's the problem, you think you're right, but in someone else's shoes, they are not misinformed at all: to them, you're the one who's completely wrong and don't even know it... so wrong they have nothing better to do but ROTFL.
Just let them laugh at you. It's meaningless anyway.
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Post by patricktm on Jun 3, 2018 12:13:34 GMT -5
See that's the problem, you think you're right, No, the problem with you, anonymous guest, is that you don't understand humor even when it is clearly marked as such. And most of you arguing for "guest" posts are signed in as "guests" because you are too cowardly to participate as members.
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Post by patricktm on Jun 3, 2018 12:17:53 GMT -5
Here is an example of the problem with guests.
You have a "guest" not contributing in a meaningful manner of any kind. This is not disagreeing with another's "viewpoint" but rather disagreeing with nonsense that adds nothing to any discussion.
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Post by another light on Jun 3, 2018 12:36:25 GMT -5
See that's the problem, you think you're right, No, the problem with you, anonymous guest, is that you don't understand humor even when it is clearly marked as such. And most of you arguing for "guest" posts are signed in as "guests" because you are too cowardly to participate as members. Nope, your humor was clearly made to deride whoever you were writing against. So you asked for it. I'm sorry you cannot understand this. Again there is NO issue for anonymity especially when you were the first offender.
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Post by weaslespit on Jun 4, 2018 8:49:07 GMT -5
Because you must have done it first by the way you write your responses. I can see how you write - you're asking for it! There is no problem with IP address up until each website has a warrant against them. And the other problem you fail to understand despite writing it already: it's NOT the government I'm worried about. It's big business that needs to be held back. Whoever has been attacking weaslespit... I'd have to agree with them. This guy deserves it, at the very least for registering 'picturefreak'! More attacks to honest discourse. And no, I don't have time in my day to register the names of people with whom I disagree with on the internet... SMH RE Big Business - you don't think their money can buy data on IP's? Perhaps the ban on posting for all anonymous guests should indeed apply for all forums here, as evidenced by these responses under numerous different names aimed at attacking the poster?
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Post by jayrad1957 (Los Angeles) on Jun 4, 2018 9:10:22 GMT -5
It's time to make registering on this site mandatory.
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look at the real picture
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Post by look at the real picture on Jun 4, 2018 11:59:37 GMT -5
Oh really, are these attacks on the person, or attacks on the idea that perhaps someone provoked the response they asked for?
This is 100% the issue. People, regardless of whether they registered or not, are making inflammatory comments against an idea that another desires as positive.
I'm sorry if any one doesn't have the time or otherwise can't defend themselves against what they did that initiated the response in the first place, humor or not. They made the mistake to begin, and deserve the response.
Instead people are crying "MOMMY" at an admin to "PROTECT" them from these mere responses. "Mommy it hurts when I do this." "THEN DON'T DO IT!"
SMH. All you need to do is ignore any posts if you disagree with them. Especially those that have no content. Then the ones that do have content you're really just silencing.
SMH. Are companies are actually going to keep on buying them for minor comments on some strange forum? And if it keeps changing over time that they basically have to buy a more and more expensive subscription in order for the data be worth its grain of salt? Barring illegal activity? Is it really worth it to them to track people who simply want freedom of speech?
SMH. If you feel the need to disagree and respond to posts, it shows that you feel they're a credible threat -- and thus correct -- and you are actually wrong!!!
SMH. Is any of this really directed at any one person, or really is this just describing the underlying ugliness people are writing in their posts. It's all about the ugliness people are free to write, then the ugly responses that they get that are also free to write, and now the first person wants to silence the ugly responses.
SMH.
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Post by unusual pattern in photons on Jun 4, 2018 12:02:56 GMT -5
Someone still needs to look in the mirror and wonder why they decided to cause trouble... and thus force action... and now we get thousands of different guest names that would have just been one had that trouble not been done.
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