goldie
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Post by goldie on Aug 29, 2019 11:08:07 GMT -5
IMO we cannot tolerate nor could we survive another term of trump. I am worried he won't do something even more drastic as he sees the end of his reign nearing.
Fears that Trump will do something drastic are overblown. IMO.Who are the "Judeo-Christians" you talk about?? AFAIK it is only some Christians (as a group, individuals of all religions have their own views). The Jewish organizations I am familiar with believe in and publicly lobby for a woman's right to choose. Nor are they single issue voters as are you and some of your anti-abortion Christian cohorts.
Leave the "Judeos" out of your propaganda! Not even all Christians or organized Christian groups agree with you, so you should probably leave them out of it, too. Just specify anti-abortion extremists. And leave all others who are not single issue voters re that issue, out of it.
Any Democratic candidate that would be conservative enough for you to vote for would not really be a Democrat. Tru (NAPA CA) 's fears are well founded. He is coming more and more unhinged by the day, and desperate, whether it's to retain power or to avoid leaving the safety of the WH where he's protected from prosecution for his crimes. "Desperate" is the key word.
Among the characteristics of his personality flaw (ie, mental illness) is only caring about himself, always putting his own personal needs first and an inability to feel empathy for anyone else.
These are dangerous combinations.
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Aug 29, 2019 12:02:39 GMT -5
Post by sandipaws on Aug 29, 2019 12:02:39 GMT -5
Hope you all have a ......
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Aug 31, 2019 9:56:20 GMT -5
Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Aug 31, 2019 9:56:20 GMT -5
My opinion is that life is good and l hope it remains so. I am going to visit a friend who has cancer tomorrow and hope he can come home again.
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Aug 31, 2019 16:10:41 GMT -5
Post by gth (Columbus OH) on Aug 31, 2019 16:10:41 GMT -5
Then the Democrats need to nominate a candidate that Judeo-Christian believers who uphold, value and support the right to life of the unborn, can support and vote for in good conscience. No Democratic candidate (especially not Hillary) met that requirement in 2016 and no one currently running for the Democrats, meets that requirement for 2020. An honest candidate (again, that was not Hillary Clinton) would help as well.
Fears that Trump will do something drastic are overblown. IMO. Who are the "Judeo-Christians" you talk about?? AFAIK it is only some Christians (as a group, individuals of all religions have their own views). The Jewish organizations I am familiar with believe in and publicly lobby for a woman's right to choose. Nor are they single issue voters as are you and some of your anti-abortion Christian cohorts.
Leave the "Judeos" out of your propaganda! Not even all Christians or organized Christian groups agree with you, so you should probably leave them out of it, too. Just specify anti-abortion extremists. And leave all others who are not single issue voters re that issue, out of it.
Any Democratic candidate that would be conservative enough for you to vote for would not really be a Democrat. Tru (NAPA CA) 's fears are well founded. He is coming more and more unhinged by the day, and desperate, whether it's to retain power or to avoid leaving the safety of the WH where he's protected from prosecution for his crimes. "Desperate" is the key word.
Among the characteristics of his personality flaw (ie, mental illness) is only caring about himself, always putting his own personal needs first and an inability to feel empathy for anyone else.
These are dangerous combinations.
The system of morality that Christians follow is based on Judaism, from the Ten Commandments onward, the Mosaic law which Jesus stated he came to fulfill. (That doesn't mean we obey all the Mosaic laws, just that they are interpreted in light of the Christian revelation of Jesus Christ). So "judeo-Christian" is giving credit where credit is due.
There are conservative Democrats, but they are rarer than liberal Republicans. But while the GOP entertained the candidacy of "pro-choice" Rudy Giuliani in 2008, I cannot remember when a pro-life Democrat ever mounted a credible run for the nomination for President. I do remember Pennsylvania Governor Bob Casey being denied a speaking slot at the 1992 Democratic Convention, and I doubt John Bell Edwards of Louisiana would fare any better in 2020.
I see no evidence that Donald Trump's behavior is getting any worse. The concerns about his stability are still there, but I have no idea what you refer to when you imply he's getting more desparate. Most likely that's more TDS, plus you don't like his policies.
BTW "anti-abortion extremists" are entirely different from pro-lifers. Pro-lifers are peaceful, unlike the small handful of violent extremists who oppose abortion. To commit wanton violence is, by definition, not "pro-life".
As I was trying to say, if Democrats are serious about wanting to get Trump out of office, they really need to re-examine what their party is about, especially the abortion rights absolutism that most Americans disagree with.l The current crop of Democrats is, in that sense, not serious. |
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Sept 1, 2019 18:49:37 GMT -5
Post by sandipaws on Sept 1, 2019 18:49:37 GMT -5
Hi Tru,
Sorry to hear about your friend, sending get well prayers.
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Sept 2, 2019 9:32:22 GMT -5
Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Sept 2, 2019 9:32:22 GMT -5
Thanks Sandipaws .. I spoke to him yesterday and he sounded just fine but said his drs tell him nothing about when he can come home.
IMO l would grab the dr and insist on some info and l think that poor JIM is just too easy going to do that.
Jim is "just a neighbor" but he has been kind to me and nice neighbor and neighbors should care about one another eh?
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Sept 3, 2019 9:25:18 GMT -5
Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Sept 3, 2019 9:25:18 GMT -5
The news channels do not fully cover all the news. They seem to grab on big news and repeat and repeat the same videos as "breaking news"
IMO they should go to other news even if it isn't as big a story and come back with new information periodically.
Another thing they do is speculate on the facts. Wait til the facts are offered. Speculating fills time but isn't helpful.
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Sept 5, 2019 12:00:57 GMT -5
Post by sandipaws on Sept 5, 2019 12:00:57 GMT -5
Tru,
I agree with you, the news does not always tell you everything. I get tired of seeing and hearing the same "news" repeated too.
Oh well, that's why we have a channel changer. I prefer not to watch too much news anyway because it's generally too much negativity.
Try to remain positive and have a thankful Thursday!
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Sept 5, 2019 12:58:49 GMT -5
Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Sept 5, 2019 12:58:49 GMT -5
I want the news all the news. I just don't want speculating over and over and not telling us facts and get on to some other news. How many times a day do l need to see the same picture of say a fire, or a car chase or a shooting. Once or even twice in case some one missed it about 2 or 3 hours later .. But not over and over a day or even 2 days in a row. Surely something else is going on in this world.
I do change the channel and often end up watching rehab of homes and even then it is often repeats, so a movie or go do the dishes.
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Sept 7, 2019 10:54:52 GMT -5
Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Sept 7, 2019 10:54:52 GMT -5
IMO the news covers entirely too much of the president and all his twitters or tweets and his yelling at reporters at the heliopad. If any of it was real news then possibly l would care. But most is just venting his hatred and animosity of others . I don't see that is productive in any way, or newsworthy.
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Sept 7, 2019 11:18:49 GMT -5
Post by sandipaws on Sept 7, 2019 11:18:49 GMT -5
Tru, I agree with you, there is too much negativity on TV especially on the News Channels. I record The CBS Evening News so I can fast forward through parts I'm not interesting in viewing. My favorite part is at the end of every broadcast there is a segment called "On the Road" where they report on a positive story. Friday night's story was: Man "addicted" to helping others donates his kidney to a stranger. Here is the link to the website: www.cbsnews.com/news/man-addicted-to-helping-others-donates-his-kidney-to-a-stranger-2019-09-06/Hope you have a positive day and a super Saturday! |
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Sept 8, 2019 8:52:44 GMT -5
Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Sept 8, 2019 8:52:44 GMT -5
IMO we concentrate on the negative and don't have enough of the positive. When a person is a positive person they are called a Pollyanna or worse. I work to be more positive with negativity pulling me back.
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Sept 11, 2019 19:50:07 GMT -5
Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Sept 11, 2019 19:50:07 GMT -5
IMO if you want to bug someone , put a florescent light bulb about to go out in their room. I had one one place l lived and it was noisy and mind blowing and the maintenance said they couldn't change it until it went out. So l went out (moved) I happened to remember that as one reason l move so often. Lousy maintenance. Refusal to accommodate a tenant. Those lights and large fly buzzing around are two things l cannot abide.
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goldie
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Sept 12, 2019 5:26:21 GMT -5
Post by goldie on Sept 12, 2019 5:26:21 GMT -5
Who are the "Judeo-Christians" you talk about?? AFAIK it is only some Christians (as a group, individuals of all religions have their own views). The Jewish organizations I am familiar with believe in and publicly lobby for a woman's right to choose. Nor are they single issue voters as are you and some of your anti-abortion Christian cohorts.
Leave the "Judeos" out of your propaganda! Not even all Christians or organized Christian groups agree with you, so you should probably leave them out of it, too. Just specify anti-abortion extremists. And leave all others who are not single issue voters re that issue, out of it.
Any Democratic candidate that would be conservative enough for you to vote for would not really be a Democrat. Tru (NAPA CA) 's fears are well founded. He is coming more and more unhinged by the day, and desperate, whether it's to retain power or to avoid leaving the safety of the WH where he's protected from prosecution for his crimes. "Desperate" is the key word.
Among the characteristics of his personality flaw (ie, mental illness) is only caring about himself, always putting his own personal needs first and an inability to feel empathy for anyone else.
These are dangerous combinations.
The system of morality that Christians follow is based on Judaism, from the Ten Commandments onward, the Mosaic law which Jesus stated he came to fulfill. (That doesn't mean we obey all the Mosaic laws, just that they are interpreted in light of the Christian revelation of Jesus Christ). So "judeo-Christian" is giving credit where credit is due.
There are conservative Democrats, but they are rarer than liberal Republicans. But while the GOP entertained the candidacy of "pro-choice" Rudy Giuliani in 2008, I cannot remember when a pro-life Democrat ever mounted a credible run for the nomination for President. I do remember Pennsylvania Governor Bob Casey being denied a speaking slot at the 1992 Democratic Convention, and I doubt John Bell Edwards of Louisiana would fare any better in 2020.
I see no evidence that Donald Trump's behavior is getting any worse. The concerns about his stability are still there, but I have no idea what you refer to when you imply he's getting more desparate. Most likely that's more TDS, plus you don't like his policies.
BTW "anti-abortion extremists" are entirely different from pro-lifers. Pro-lifers are peaceful, unlike the small handful of violent extremists who oppose abortion. To commit wanton violence is, by definition, not "pro-life".
As I was trying to say, if Democrats are serious about wanting to get Trump out of office, they really need to re-examine what their party is about, especially the abortion rights absolutism that most Americans disagree with.l The current crop of Democrats is, in that sense, not serious.
The exception does not prove the rule, as you are trying to do. Just b/c a few extreme right wing talking heads are Jewish, does not mean anything. They do not stand for the official positions on the issues. They are the exceptions.
A Democrat does not have to be "pro-life" to be a conservative Democrat. Some are conservative on the traditional Conservative values, like economy and taxes.
I did not say "violent anti-abortion extremists", just "anti-abortion extremists", those who are single issue and put the life of a fetus over the life and welfare of already born and here people, both children and adults. That's extreme. Most Americans believe in a woman's sovereign right over her own body, without the government interfering. That is not the same as saying that most Americans would have an abortion if faced with that situation. Funny how Conservatives believe in less government and keeping government out of people's lives -- until they don't. Your RDS (Reality Denial Syndrome) is showing.
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Sept 13, 2019 9:34:08 GMT -5
Post by Tru (NAPA CA) on Sept 13, 2019 9:34:08 GMT -5
They held the first few debates and were on every station, couldn't avoid them, then when we get down to the major one only one station and l missed the entire thing. IMO that was not right, but l guess l will hear more than enough political talk in the next MONTHS before we vote.
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